The BET Special is back and this time they dealt with the relationships between black women and men, a topic for the ages. I really like the intellectual wing of BET, BET News, too bad its only a seemingly minor venture for a company that is concerned with keeping the masses numb (I'll talk about my dissatisfaction with BET on another day). Yet, this special was good. I love the mix of intellectuals and hip-hop artists/industry people and media insiders. It allows everyone to have the opportunity to speak and represent their different industries. However, this time, it seems that the Hip Hop/industry people came with a bit of a chip on their shoulders. They were really on the defensive from the start and it seems like the show opened with yelling and screaming. While the program was great, I still feel that it is too short of a program for BET. They need to do something major on this issue (kinda like CNN's Black in America coming in July), but I doubt we will see that anytime soon. I must say though that I am completely appalled by the comments and ideology of Rev. Eugene Rivers. Rivers is a Pentecostal minister and "christian activist", however he had some incredibly conservative, narrow-minded and misogynist viewpoints. He tried to make the argument that Black Women wanted to see more strong black men and not an increase in strong black women. At first I couldnt believe a man who preaches the gospel could make statements that were so unfair, unjust and misogynistic. One of my favorite intellectuals, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson (who was also on the panel and began to look increasingly more frustrated by Rivers) on the first part of this special last year coined the term "ecclesiastical apartheid" to describe the way in which women constitute 75-80% of the congregations but cannot lead the church, and not only did Rivers scoff at the use of the term, but also at the idea that there was a problem. He said that since Black Women weren't on the whole leaving the Black Church then there was no problem. As Dyson and Dr. Marc Lamont Hill (another respectable brother who is on my blogroll), tried to explain the misogynistic pathology that these women have ingrained in them, Rivers refused to accept this idea and even resorted to referring to David Banner as "Doc", commending him for agreeing with his claim. This is a problem that I have with the Church as a whole. Well, one of the many. Its my honest opinion, that the Church has been used for so long to subjugate different groups of people (i.e., non-christians Post-Constantine, Blacks during Slavery, and now women). The Bible is read with an oppressive ideology and once a group steps outside of the realm of the oppressed, they take on that "empire" theology that all is well with the world because all is well with them. If they see someone from the oppressed group actually making it, they believe that it is very possible for everyone of that group, not understanding that the person is the exception, not the rule. We as black men (and I'll be the first to admit that I haven't always been the best at this, but I am working on it) need to stand up for the black women who love us unconditionally. We need to see strong black women on TV, who are focused on making a change to the patriarchal system that controls the world right now. And since everything in the Black community seemingly starts in the church, it needs to start with more black women, and women in general, being put into the leadership roles within the church. We need to end the patriarchal pathoology that America has pimped since the beginning. We need a change and we, as Black Men in America, need to stand arm in arm with Black Women in pursuit of that change.
Update :
Thank you to Tommy D for asking a very relevant question about the pathology that Black Women, and women in general, have that affects them. What Dyson and Hill were referring to in explaining that there are women in power positions, but are still held captive to patriarchy is the fact that patriarchy looks for a certain type of women to lead. The woman must, in many ways, be very much like a man. Look at the Democratic primaries. There was a lot of sexism thrown at Hilary, especially after she cried on national TV. People began to question her ability to lead because she was showing too much feminine emotion. That is the problem with this patriarchal pathology it forces a stereotype of what women in power should look, or act like. And the common standard is a woman who can hang with the good old boys as long as she doesn't try to take over or make any distinct changes. Hope that explains the baseline problem with patriarchal systems.
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So what about the ideology that Dr. Dyson (and that the rest of the panel supported) spoke about concerning the women that are in power like Deborah Lee, etc. who they feel are in leading positions, but continue to pursue their leadership role in a patriarchal mindset? I forget at the present moment what reasons were stated, but they all spoke about the unchanging mindset of the patriarchal tradition and just because women are in power does not change that ideology.
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I respect your opinions on much of the subject matter you address; however, I have a question. Do you think you contradict a previous blog with the statement: “The woman must, in many ways, be very much like a man.” You seem to denote certain characteristics as male or female, and in many ways there are inherent male female characteristics; however, I would not list crying as one of them. “She was showing too much feminine emotion.” By arguing that Hillary was showing too much feminine emotion by crying, you may be contributing to the patriarchal system you wish to move against. We are taught that men shouldn’t cry, women cannot be aggressive, in a very similar manner that we are bombarded with negative images of Black and Hispanic men and women. We begin to think that Black men and women cannot speak articulately and that doing so is a White thing. You were outraged when Barack was criticized for being too White, though you had just as much vigor in defense of Hillary being too feminine, you did so in a contradictory manner. Race is a social construct, the basis of your argument for Barack: “Outside of pigmentation, race, biologically speaking, has very little to do with how a person acts or behaves.” Besides genitalia and average levels of hormones, biologically speaking, gender does not determine a persons behavior. Crying cannot be called a “feminine emotion”.
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I very much would like to agree with shaqapocco said. We have to be careful in not contributing to some of the stereotypes of femininity in our critical analysis of it. Like you, Wil, I have a billion problems with BET and with the Chrisitian (particularly black) church in America. That said, MC Lyte, one of the truly great voices in hip-hop was a moderator of the town-hall style program. I would have much rathern seen her on the panel. Her voice and Queen Latifah's are truly missed in hi-hop and like one woman on the panel said: sometimes women don't care what we have to say about them but need us to shut up and pass the mic.
Tommy D- I believe I addressed your point in my update.
Shaq- When I was making the points about women crying and all that stuff, I was explicating the viewpoint of the majority of those who subscribe to the patriarchal system. Men and women should be held to the same standard. Thanks for reading.
Nellz- You already know that MC Lyte, or Queen Latifah, should have taken the place of a Deelishis or an Angel Lola Luv. There wasnt a really good representation of women from Hip-Hop outside of Video Models.
Thanks to everyone for reading.
I would have to say that the blame for this bad relationship between men and women lies on both genders. I am glad that the topic was raised that women are forced to be second class citizens in the community because the issues that plauge black women are pushed under the table due to the common belief that black men have things sooo much worse. As a result, black women and girls are forced to defend the honor of a whole race of men who do not defend them in return.
At the same time this does not excuse the women in the world who choose to find power through being an object of lust and accepting/claiming the label of being a "Ho" or "Bitch" . I feel that girls of this generation need to start demanding more respect as a whole. I have to agree with Dyson 100% when he says in his book "Know What I Mean?" that the relationship between black men and women of this geration is on a purley sexual level. The relationship between the sexes can never be a positive if is continues to be based on nothing but sex. It is doomed like any other relationship because it is based on nothing solid, like friendship or trust.
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